Hello lovely RMS community, I’m Fern – some of you may know me from Rock My Wedding. Given all of the wonderful comments on Lauren’s Moving In post, team Rock My Style asked if I’d share my experience of moving to a new place with you all.
Last year, Matt and I moved to Cornwall. This came as quite a shock to lots of our family and friends who thought we were crazy. I think they were secretly hoping that we would be moving closer to them, not further away. Most people assumed the move was for work, but I’m ashamed (read proud) to say that it was completely and utterly a lifestyle decision. We knew that we wanted to live in a place where we would be able to bring up a family, where Matt could surf and where we could walk to the beach within minutes.
We also knew that if we were going to make the move – this was the time to do it. No dependents, Matt was between work so we weren’t tied to any particular place and the price of property was still reasonable. So we jumped in with both feet, buying immediately rather than renting (against the advice of almost everyone…) And here we are!
But moving to a place where you don’t know a soul, apart from each other, is tough. I have three younger sisters and have always had a small, close knit group of female friends around me. I’ve never really realised how important those relationships are to my sanity until now. Sometimes when I think about my sisters, I’m overwhelmed with a sense of loneliness and isolation. To begin with, this was worsened by the fact that I felt unbelievably guilty for feeling that way – I’m living with the love of my life, a stone’s throw from the beach – what more could I ask for?! But we both had to accept that it’s ok to need relationships in your life apart from each other – in fact, it’s really much more healthy.
On choosing where to live and what sort of property to live in, we looked at many options. While a cottage in the middle of nowhere would have been idyllic – I think it would have pushed me over the edge. I can drive, but don’t have access to a car, so it would have meant that Matt would have had to ferry me everywhere. We ended up buying an apartment, this meant immediate friends, as luckily two other young couples also live in our building, with whom we get on really well. It also meant that I could walk to everywhere I would need to, without asking Matt for a lift.
But it wasn’t enough to rely on our neighbours and the friends they’d already made. I knew if I was going to settle here I would need to start making an effort. Working from home would mean that I wouldn’t be immediately surrounded by potential work friends – so I had to get creative. I’ve lost count of the amount of random wedding related networking events I’ve attended now, but it worked. Lots of the people I’ve met have been amazingly welcoming and it has made me really grateful to work in an industry where people are, on the whole, nice!
Attending exercise classes has also been a great way to meet people. Just getting out of the house and having that social interaction has been essential. Classes are so cheap down here – I don’t feel guilty for attending several a week as it’s still far cheaper than a gym membership. And much less solitary.
In April we got a puppy. This has been AMAZING for making friends. Our vets surgery held ‘puppy parties’ for the little rascals (soooo cute). And I regularly see one of the girls I met there. We let our dogs run riot on the beach while we chat and eat ice cream or drink coffee. For me, having a dog around when Matt has to go away for work, or even when he’s just in the sea for too long, has meant that I have a little companion who is always up for fun and cuddles.
We’ve lived here for just over a year now – and I am beginning to feel ‘at home.’ I do have moments where I wish I could just jump in the car and have dinner at my Mum and Dad’s, or go out for drinks with my school friends. But when I’m away from here, I really miss it…
I mentioned at the start of this post that one of our reasons for moving was to live in a place where we could start a family and I’m so excited to say that we are expecting a little baby in January. Yes, it terrifies me that my Mum and Mother-in-law aren’t around the corner for support, but if there was ever a sign that Matt and I made the right decision in moving to Cornwall – I think the baby is it.
Have any of you moved away from friends and family? Have you ever experienced loneliness as an adult? What is your experience of making new friends when you’re older? Sometimes I’m desperate not to appear desperate if that makes sense!
Having a baby helps with making friends and talking to people!
Thanks Hayley – after reading Charlotte’s post on NCT classes – I’ve signed up for those 🙂 I’m really hoping I meet some lovely mums-to-be and I’ll be going to lots of baby coffee mornings, music sessions etc once the baby comes x
I feel the same, I only live 35 minutes from where I grew up but my friends and family are all still there and even at though I am a car-ride away, I still feel a bit isolated.
I love where I live though and I’m definitely up for making new friends, I know it sounds ridiculous, but I’m just not sure how without the aforementioned dog or child!
Katie x
Hi Katie 🙂
Aw bless you – sometimes when you want to see your family, even a few minutes feels a bit far.
Do you go to any exercise classes or a gym? That really is a great way to meet people. Yoga and pilates classes tend to be a bit more relaxed and there’s more time for chatting compared to say spinning or boot camp!
Are there any cute cafes near to you? Sometimes they run book clubs/craft clubs.
I’d also say just bite the bullet and strike up conversations with people – some might think you’re crazy, but others might end up being people you really get on well with.
Fern x
Thanks Fern 🙂
I will be trying some of your tips. I’m quite a confident person, so it shouldn’t be tooo hard really….
Katie x
Congratulations! I am sure you and baby will have will have a very full diary before you know it. In the last couple of years I have found that I don’t have a set group of friends anymore. People who I felt close to or met up with regularly have moved away (some abroad) and life have just moved at a different pace with others such as having a families. Over the last year I found myself meeting up with a couple of girls quite regularly and they are lovely but I find myself holding back a little – I guess don’t want to seem to be muscling on peoples friendships but I do feel the odd one out at times. It is definitely harder to make friends as an adult
Hi Claire,
I know exactly what you mean – the older we get, the more those ‘friendship groups’ seem to disperse. It makes me sad, but I suppose that’s just what happens. Have you moved away from old friends or have you just grown apart?
And I also understand the feeling of muscling in – I think when you move somewhere quite small, this is even more extreme as people have grown up together. There’s a fine line between being open and oversharing.
I also worry that people will think I’m crazy/over keen/a bit full on!!
Fern x
We’ve just grown apart. I used to go to a gym class and I got talking a few people there and I did have a funny/slightly weird experience when that over enthusiastic person (there’s one in every class) started a very long winded conversations in the changing room while completely stark naked for far longer than necessary. I didn’t know where to look ha ha !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA oh no!!!! Maybe not the person who was going to be your new best friend then…
Hi, congratulations on your pregnancy & well done on your move. We moved to Cornwall in 2010, something that I had wanted to do for years and with my partner having lived in Cornwall in the past I thought it would be a dream come true, I was lucky enough to find a job on our first day of arriving and started meeting people but I never really felt at home and was incredibly home sick. After living there a year I too fell pregnant and felt that I needed to be close to family and friends for support. 3 years and 2 children later we both regret moving back to Kent and not sticking it out as a family. We’d now give anything to move back but at the moment it’s not something we can do. I really admire andink that in the long run you have made the best decision for you and your family.
Good luck
Hi Julie,
Thank you so much for this comment – it’s lovely.
I’m sure there will be times when we wish our families were around the corner and I’m sure yours were thrilled to have you back 🙂
The fact that the baby might not be as close to his/her Grandparents as he/she could be makes me sad.
Cheesy as it sounds – as long as your children are surrounded by love, I don’t think it matters too much where you bring them up.
If you ever do decide to come back let me know!!
Fern x
It’s lovely to hear more about you Fern! For us old marrieds who pop back to RMW (a little bit) less frequently, it’s nice to get to know the newest voice of RMW a bit more.
Congratulations on your happy news too – I need to get some of that ‘Rock My’ baby mojo sent my way!! x
Awww thanks Karen!
Come and work for Rock My Ltd – we all seem to have babies 🙂
Fern x
I think you are really brave as I’m too much of a homebody to move too far. Honestly, having a baby will instantly increase your circle of friends! Although I live near where I grew up all my friends moved away so luckily when I had my first little girl I gained a group of gorgeous ‘baby’ friends. Now Monday morning baby club is a regular fixture under the guise of the kids playing but more so that we can drink tea and have a gossip! xxx
Thanks Charlotte – I’m really hoping that I’ll make a good group of friends through the baby – I think sometimes you just need to offload to other women as men don’t always want to listen to our (very important) waffle.
Fern x
I too moved to Cornwall 7 years ago from Sussex when I was 21 with my boyfriend (now husband!) and share your experience. I only knew a handful of my partners friends when I moved and have no family down here. The first two years were a bit of a struggle, I found it very isolating and lonely sometimes. Although my partners friends were very lovely, it’s not the same as having your own girlfriends which I found to be very important. One day I took the plunge and signed up to my local netball club and things instantly changed. They were so welcoming and now have the most amazing friends. I think it is really important for you both to have your own time apart and not live in each other’s pockets. Safe to say Cornwall is now defiantly my home! Never say never, but I really can’t see myself moving back to the hustle and bustle! Give it another year and you will feel it too for sure 🙂 x
Thanks Kirstie – I had considered Netball as I loved playing at school and uni, but felt a little intimidated by the ‘team culture’ if I’m honest. Once I’ve had the baby, maybe I’ll just have to be brave and go along 🙂
Totally agree that having your own friends is essential, is it just me, or does it seem to be easier for men to make friends?
There’s no way we would move back either – I love the laid back pace of life here!
Fern x
You really should give it a go. It was quite scary… I remember when I plucked up the courage to ring and just enquire about it, and the answer I received was ‘brill, are you able to play tonight, we have a match and we’re short of players!’ Gulp!! But actually getting chucked in the deep end worked very well! They were very friendly but I was very nervous. I think when your older you kind of forget how to make friends?! It’s not as easy as just being in the playground when your little and just asking someone to be your friend is it?! And def the boys find it easier, I think they are just a lot more confident and don’t worry about getting knocked back, but us girls take it personally don’t we.
Just reading through some of the comments about moving here, it made me chuckle when you said about having to be organised with bread and milk, seriously, this still catches me out! I have to laugh at my family and friends when they come down too, they always say oh it’s fine well just get a taxi at 2am in the morn, or oh dear I’m short of petrol, where is the nearest station? …. Umm… 30 mins away?! You definitely have to be organised down here! X
Definitely – as soon as your inhibitions kick in it gets much harder. You’ve encouraged me to give Netball a go once the baby has been born – I think it would be good to do an entirely non-baby related activity! As I mentioned to some of the other girls, I don’t want my life to be taken over…
Hehe, these city folk just don’t get it do they?! x
Congratulations on your pregnancy! My fiancé and I moved to Germany for his dream job at the beginning of August. We are loving it here but are yet to make new friends. I am waiting to start my course so fingers crossed I will meet some nice people there!
Hi Lucy!
Thank you 🙂 and well done on your move – Germany is such a cool country. Which part have you moved to? One of my best friends lived in Cologne, and now lives near Dusseldorf and I loved both!
Do you speak any German? Most Germans have amazing English – it puts us to shame!!
What course are you doing? I’m sure you’ll meet lots of lovely people through that. My friend did a bit of bar work to meet people – although if you’re in the sticks this might not be an option!
Fern x
Thank you! We have moved to the Rheinland-Pfalz region (the wine region!) it is a really nice area. I only speak very basic German but I am going to be starting a 6 month intensive language course and then in September I am hoping to start an apprenticeship to become a baker/ pastry chef. It is something I have always dreamed of doing and have decided now is good time to take the plunge! It is quite embarrassing how well they speak English!
Lucy x
Wow Lucy – that sounds amazing!!! The course sounds wonderful, they make such amazing breads, cakes and pastries in continental Europe too! What a great experience.
And living in wine region – you can’t really go wrong can you?!
You’ll pick things up in no time living there 🙂
Fern x
Well done you! So brave and obviously the right decision for your family.
I moved 200 miles from family with my partner not knowing a soul, five years on I have a handful of people I can call best friends. It was very hard to get them though! I didn’t know how hard it was to make friends out with an education setting. I have dreams of jetting off to New Zealand but what does stop me is the fact again I don’t know anyone and if we have a family there are no grannies close by….I may get brave again but for now scotland will do!
Honestly Jill I think the best friendships are those that take years to build – which is why those you make at school are so great. I suppose it’s just easier when you see people day in, day out and share similar experiences with each other.
It’s reassuring to hear you’ve met people you’d consider best friends – I really miss that kind of relationship.
New Zealand would be a massive move – but if you can make it work in Scotland, why not there too?! I have so much respect for people who manage to move countries – it must be an emotional roller coaster.
Fern x
” We knew that we wanted to live in a place where we would be able to bring up a family, where Matt could surf and where we could walk to the beach within minutes.”
Just replace Matt with Mike and this could be us. We are always talking about it but we never do it… for various reasons…
Can I ask where in Cornwall you moved to? And how far are you from family? How was it finding work?
We’ve moved to Newquay (well just outside – I like to call it the posh bit, hehe).
Both mine and Matt’s family are about 3-4 hours away.
Have you guys looked into where you would move to? If you do come down here – let me know 🙂
Work for me has been great, as team Rock My Wedding were really supportive and the wedding industry is thriving in Cornwall. Matt is working on a surf related project, so we’re in the right place for that too – athough we do have in the back of our minds that if Matt’s project doesn’t happen, we may have to rethink things as there aren’t lots of job opportunities down here (in the traditional sense).
Fern x
Yay, Fern, so lovely to see you over here and huge congrats on your blooming great news (and great pad! – it’s gorgeous!)
My comments are always so long, sorry!
I’m such a home body. I speak to my Mum, Dad and Sister every. single. day. No joke. But, i haven’t lived in the same country as them for 12 years (i’m kinda cheating and counting Wales and England as diff countries!) I moved from Cardiff to London when I was 22 – only lasted 6 months the first time round and went back to the Diff feeling like i had failed. But after 6 months of being back in the Diff I knew I had to give London another go. I had the best time ever and have made my closest friendships from finding my way alone (thanks moveflat.com!) I definitely embraced the say yes to everything and it really is the best advice to anyone.
I then moved to Sydney and was there for 4 years (with my boyf) and have been in New York for just coming up to a year. It’s always hard to make friends, New York has been ESPECIALLY hard and we (me and new hubbage) don’t actually have a lot of friends here at all, which can send me stir crazy as I often feel needy of him (totes not cool to admit, hey! but keeping it real!) Jack often has to play the role of being my cocktail drinking friend, dancing friend (he doesn’t like dancing!), gym buddy… I have been so used to having my different friendship groups who I do different stuff with – Jack is often being all of these things to me since living here.
He now has to travel a lot for work so I have A LOT of time on my own. Duh-Duh-Duuuuuuuuh (in true Panto style!)
So, I have learned that it is a total mindset thing. I have become quite partial to going out for dinner by myself and really enjoying it (no compromise in cuisine and I don’t have to share!). I go to gym classes alone and treat myself to a sauna and extra long pamper session. I pick out cake shops and neighborhoods to explore, that are filled with “crap Nicola shops” (which if I was with Jack, i have a limit of three shops, so have the hard job of choosing) All in all, I am quite enjoying being on my own now and again!!
I have never been very good/comfortable with my own company but have had to change my mindset, or risk rocking slowly by myself in a dark room!! New York is just too exciting to do that, so in a way, although this place is known to be one of the most isolating places in the world (and at the same time most fantastic) being alone here is pushing me in ways that I would never have done in the Diff, London or Sydney. I am even braving it and going to a blogger event next week. On. My. Own! Ah (a bit scared of that one still!)
Hi Nicola,
I completely agree on the being needy thing – Matt is subjected to SO MUCH girl stuff on a daily basis that I’m surprised his head doesn’t explode – sometimes I’ll be rabbiting away to him about weddings/babies and his eyes just glaze over…but I don’t have anyone else to tell it to!!! He always laughs because everyone thinks I’m really quiet, but with him I’m a total chatterbox.
I must admit I’m quite content being in my own company – but there have been times when even I’ve started to rock from side to side in a dark room. Going places on your own is actually quite fun and liberating – you’re not on anyone else’s time and like you say, you can go wherever you want to go. (Matt also has a shop limit – he can’t do more than 30 minutes)…
New York always seems like such a hard and scary place, but it sounds like you’re doing really well – I bet your bubbly Welsh loveliness is really refreshing to people!!
Let us know how the blogger event goes – you’ll be absolutely fine 🙂
Fern x
I can completely relate to this, I moved an hour from friends and family a couple of years ago with my other half, despite it only being an hour I massively missed popping in to see my parents or have coffee at friends.
I made a great effort to get to know people, got a puppy, joined a young WI group and two years on I’m really happy and settled with plenty of people to call on for a coffee – defiantly hard ‘making friends’ as an before having kids
I’d be really interested to hear more about your WI experience Claire – it’s something I’ve thought about, but wasn’t sure if the slightly younger groups were few and far between?
I’m really pleased to hear you’re feeling happy and settled, and as I said to Katie above, when you miss someone, any distance feels huge!
Fern x
I think younger WI groups are on the increase for the very reasons you outline in your article, a little internet research helped me find mine. The group ranges from 25- 50ish years old, the main meetings are varied to cater for all interest, in the coming year we’re doing chocolate tasting, boudoir photography, and car mechanics for example. We then have clubs off the main group such as craft club where we have made alcoholic infusions, candel making and appliqué cushion’s recently. There’s also a book club and a dining out group. You can dip into as many or as few of the groups as you fancy. There’s also social events, such as a roller disco, plays, horse racing. We’re generally a group of professional women who want to do something just for ourselves rather than for our work or family all the time, with other like minded women.
Be brave and go to a meeting, you never know what it might lead to
Thanks Claire 🙂
This all sounds like such fun – I’m definitely going to give it a go now!
You’re right, I think there are lots of people in similar situations – the response to this post has been lovely! Thank you everyone x
Oh RMS, you’ve done it again! So in tune with where my life is at at the moment and I identified with so much of what you said, Fern. We moved from London to Cambridgeshire just over a year ago and I go through the guilt you describe regularly of ‘why aren’t I super happy’ when we’re so lucky to have bought a gorgeous little cottage where I can work from home since going freelance. Don’t get me wrong I do love our beautiful home but I often feel isolated by small village life (we’re the only ones not over 50) and I miss my friends and family as well as having easy access to ‘artisan’ coffee shops. It’s okay, I cringed writing that. But god dammit I DO miss artisan coffee shops and I’m not afraid to write it!
We actually did the same thing and got a puppy over the summer and he has been brilliant for meeting new people but I’m even after a year I’m yet to make a proper friend locally who I can grab a drink with or go shopping for the day or just call up for a chat. I do need to try the exercise class route next I think and this post has inspired me to give that a whirl. Maybe I’ll also treat myself to my nails done locally or something as that might be a way to meet other women. Gawd, it reminds me so much of the awkward phase of dating.. not wanting to come across too desperate when you first meet someone, embarrassing goodbyes worrying do you invite someone round for a cuppa or give them your number. Sigh!
Like you and the other readers mention apparently having a baby is the answer to this as you meet lots of lovely people through NCT. Huge congrats Fern!
Unfortunately the baby thing hasn’t worked so well for me. We made the move out of London because I was pregnant but very sadly I miscarried just before we moved in. I’d love RMS to do a post on this subject – not a down beat post of course but a RMS spin on cracking on with it when life doesn’t go to plan. I’m sure lots of readers could identify with this subject. x
Hi Lynne,
I’m so pleased to hear that this post resonated with you and like Lauren says, don’t ever apologise for long comments. I’m also sending lots of hugs your way, having a miscarriage or problems conceiving is something which actually effects a huge number of people, but it seems to go unspoken. I like your idea for a post with a positive spin on things, because you’re right, life doesn’t always go to plan.
Don’t feel guilty about admitting missing things – I miss high street shops like Zara and H&M, and although Cornwall is full of amazing cafes and places to eat – sometimes you just want the ease and predictability of somewhere like Nandos (!) Yes, I really did just say that.
Plus I’ve found you have to be super organised with things like milk and bread and other basics, because once it gets past 9pm, nowhere is open!! Or you go somewhere and find out that it’s closed for Winter, or closed down entirely…
The comparison to early stages of dating is so true – do you make the first move… do they actually like you or are they just being polite?! I feel like I have a few friends, but I’m still not at the stage where I feel like I could call them up for a chat – so don’t be disheartened. I’m sure we’ll both get there in the end 🙂
It is isolating living somewhere remote and working from home – so don’t ever feel bad for feeling a bit mopey, but definitely go and get your nails done – even if you can just talk nonsense to a beautician for a bit, it will make you feel better. I always find girly pampering time is the best cure for lots of things.
Good luck and let me know if you find any great exercise classes and meet lovely people there!
Fern x
Oh Team RMS and readers are so awesome! Thanks for all the lovely comments they are so appreciated.
Anyway, in the space of 24hours I have managed to make a bit of progress! Inspired by Ferns advice I asked a nice sounding lady who had emailed me a few times via Borrow My Doggy (a long story, she’d just moved to the area and didn’t know anyone either) if she’d like to pop round for tea and cake and she’s coming this afternoon to introduce her puppy to my puppy! Now, I’ve never met this person so if you read about a 30 something going missing tomorrow please take this comment to the police 😉 but she seems really nice and her dog is cute so this might be my first local friend – woo hoo! x
This is fab news Lynne (not if you get abducted though…!) Have a great afternoon x
Hi Lynne, like the other girls said, don’t ever apologise for a long comment – we really appreciate feedback and the more detail the better.
Your request is definitely noted and it seems that you already have a positive spin in terms of clearly cracking on with your life and getting involved with this community. Congratulations on going freelance, going it on your own is a big (and brave!) step. Lots of love to you x
Oh God! sorry for the super long post!
Lynne, please don’t apologise for the length of the comment. Your idea for a post is excellent – we’ll definitely see what we can do.
Sending lots of hugs x
lovely post 🙂 we have recently moved down to cornwall and are loving it down here.
We have recently moved back from Australia so we are used to moving to new places now and trying to find friends. It’s always so hard to make friends as adults and no one truly understands until your in that position. We have only been here for 6 weeks but love it down here!
Congratulations too! Exciting times are ahead 🙂
Hi Cathryn 🙂
Hope it’s going well for you!! I will let you know if I’m ever over your way 🙂
Thank you 🙂 we’re really excited but also very terrified.
I think once you’ve moved somewhere new and realise that you can do it – then you can go anywhere – it helps to build inner strength 😉
Fern x
Wow – hello overly emotive pregnant lady – apologies for all of the smiley faces!
Thank you for this post! It’s so good to hear you aren’t the only weirdo without a Samantha, Charlotte and Miranda a month into living in a new city…
We moved to London two and a half years ago and I have struggled to meet people. For such a big place it can be so lonely. I am also a homebody and on the weekend I love to see my family and chill out with my husband. Turns out that watching The bridge / having a roast with your mum does not make you new friends. I moved jobs 6 months ago and my new workplace is really sociable which has completely lifted me. I’ve rekindled a few old friendships of people that have moved down here, and I’be been fortunate to meet a really lovely girl that I’ve become very close to. I do miss having more of a group to hang out with and this post has inspired me to really make an effort to get out there and meet people. We bought our first flat 4 months ago and I AM going to make friends locally. If only I could teach my cat to walk on a lead…
Hi Anna,
It sounds like you’re doing great. Your new workplace sounds fun and it good to hear that you’re feeling positive about things!
Haha, maybe don’t walk around London with your cat on a lead – you might attract the wrong kind of friend…
Fern x
Anna…you have a Charlotte, a Miranda and…a Lauren, right here on RMS 🙂 x
Oh Fern you are so flipping lovely, inside and out.
I was so lucky to make friends at work really quickly when I first moved to Northamptonshire but obviously it can take years to forge strong friendships and so I can relate to the feeling of isolation when I first moved away from Sheffield.
I know others who have been in the same position when it’s just them and the boy in a new place and they’ve done various things; joining short evening courses, going along to WI meetings, and generally saying ‘yes’ to every single social invitation. One friend even helped out at a Mother & Baby group years before she was actually a Mum herself so she could meet like-minded similar aged women. x
Awww thanks Lauren – I am thinking about the WI as I said to Claire, so I’ll see what she comes back with!
You definitely just have to say yes to everything! There have been moments where I’ve been totally not in the mood to socialise, but I’ve forced myself to make the effort and it’s always made me feel better.
Fern x
Lynne, I’m so sorry for you and your chap. I agree, it’s a good post for RMS to tackle, it’s one of those subject not talked about enough. Big hugs xxx
I totally identify with how you feel Fern! I’ve been living with my (now) husband for the best part of seven years, and I can honestly say that I have one good friend who lives here. I know other people, but they are more acquaintances than friends, and definitely not people who I could just call or pop round to say hello to. I’ve moved a lot as an adult, and this is the longest I’ve been in one place. Doesn’t give me much hope! Thankfully, I like my own company, and my husband is genuinely my best friend.
I did try the gym thing, but find them to be very cliquey or people just don’t talk at all! We aren’t having children, which is the most obvious way to make friends. We’re moving from his flat to our first joint house just up the road soon, and I’m making it my mission to try every class, go to every fair, sign up for a few courses or whatever just to get out of the house a bit more!!
It’s definitely hard to make friends as an adult!!
Hi Faye,
Thanks for your comment – I’m happy being on my own too and like you and your husband, Matt and I are best friends and can spend a lot of time together without driving each other mental. We regularly go for weeks on end without any time apart – probably an hour at most here or there (!) Which a lot of people would find weird and I totally understand that.
I do think it’s important to have friends too – and actually sometimes it reminds you just how well you get on with your partner. As much as I love other people, surely no-one will understand you like your other half does? We’re lucky girls.
I’m really keen to not just have friends through the baby. I want to try to continue with my own life – although I’m not sure how realistic this is?!?
Good luck with your move and with meeting new people!
Fern x
Hi Fern,
Firstly congrats on the pregnancy and being so brave to move away. Cornwall is our dream place to live one day. My husbands an officer in the RAF and we move every 18 months to 2 years. It’s hard really hard especially we haven’t got any children… However, this move I’ve made life long friends and my best friend from uni lives 20 minutes away from us. Unfortunately, the time has come again and we move in 5 weeks and to start all over again making friends all for them or us to move on in months or years time. I too suffer with infertility and most of my friends have children so again this makes the barrier of making friends even harder. I to have to put my carer on hold turning down a masters in mh nursing and other great carer opportunities. Being a military spouse is hard I already know my hubby is going to be away for months next year. I’m going to try and throw my self in to civvy life starting a counselling course and volunteering for a military charity SSAFA as a family care coordinator then hopefully a new job. My cv looks like an etch sketch of the Uk I wish I could have the confidence to create my own business which I can move round with me . So glad you wrote on this subject as it affects soo many people, who can’t be close to family and friends for different reasons. X
Hi Cat,
Thank you for your comment. I can only imagine how tough it is being a military spouse – I don’t know what I would do without Matt around all the time for support. You are so brave and it sounds like you’ve made lots of sacrifices. I suppose when you really, really love someone, you’ll do anything for them and I’m sure your husband will be eternally grateful for your support.
Bless you on having to move away from a friend, that’s horrible. Where will you be moving to? There are RAF bases in Cornwall – come down here!! The lovely girl I walk our puppy with is a military wife, so unfortunately she’s leaving in November 🙁
The volunteering sounds like a great idea and sometimes I think helping other people makes you feel more positive about things. I do admit that having children creates immediate social situations for you to engage in, but there are definitely lots of adults out there too who want to make friends because they like to socialise, not just because they have children – I suppose it’s finding the right places – there are lots of great suggestions above – I’ll be giving Netball and the WI a go for sure!!
Having your own business would be great – do you have something that you’ve always dreamed of doing?
Fern x
Massive congratulations on the bump 🙂
Living half-way around the world from any family (we live in Dunedin, New Zealand) I can totally empathise with how you’re feeling. That feeling of loneliness and just wanting to go and have a quick catch up and a cup of tea has been replaced by a Skype call a few times a week (thank god for Skype!) but gradually I have got used to it; we left in 2007 and have been settled in Dunedin for the last 5 years. However… having a child without family support is hard, but I have also met some of my closest friends since having our daughter and we have created our own support network.
We are thinking of moving back to the UK at some point and my PIL are in cornwall (v near the Eden project) so maybe we can go for a dog walk when we move back (Our dog is a VERY badly behaved lab; called Marmite. He wouldn’t hurt a fly, but he eats everything! and isn’t very obedient!)
Hi Jess – it’s so brave to move half way around the world, so well done you. It sounds like you’ve done a great job of settling there. It’s kind of reassuring to know that although it’s hard having a new baby without family close by, lots of people do it, so thank you 🙂
Skype really is the best thing ever, but yes sometimes you just crave that closeness of being with someone. One of my little sisters is in Australia at the moment and every time I speak to her it just makes me miss her more!!
Oh yes, do let me know if you move to Cornwall – our puppy Drake is an extrememly sociable Jack Russell who just wants to play with everyone, so I’m sure he’d love Marmite!
Fern x
This article comes at the perfect time – I’m writing this surrounded by big moving boxes (which I need to fill in record time, aaaargh). My husband and I are making a big move to Bristol tomorrow, where I don’t know a single soul, and as excited as I am to make it our new home, another part of me is scared to the point of being weepy. I had my last coffee at to my favourite coffee shop this morning, and got tearful when the hipster barista gave me my coffee (as you can imagine, he looked COMPLETELY terrified)! Here’s to finding new favourites in Bristol…
Thank you for the moral support. x
Hi Anna,
Good luck – I know you’ll be absolutely fine. Bristol is AMAZING. The shopping is great, there are loads of cute cafes, bars and restaurants and you’ll soon be in love with the place.
It also seems to be buzzing with young couples so there will be lots of lovely new people for you to meet.
Don’t worry about getting tearful, even when you’re embarking on a new exciting adventure, it’s perfectly normal to be sad about leaving things behind.
Hope the packing goes ok.
Fern x
Fern, I could have written this. In May I accepted a job as a journalist in the north of the Isle of Lewis. I live in a village 40 minutes drive from Stornoway, in the most north westerly place in Britain. I moved from Glasgow, where I worked for a technology company. I liked my job there but it wasn’t really what I’d pictured myself doing, and I felt trapped and lonely in Glasgow. I had friends living minutes away but I hardly ever saw them.
When I spotted the advert for this job in Lewis, I scoffed. Who in their right mind would move somewhere so remote? And then, with the encouragement of my partner, I applied, interviewed for, and eventually accepted the job. I moved up here with one car load of stuff, a bed for a night in a local hostel, and no idea what I was doing. Within 24 hours I had rented a massive house with a garden and made friends with my neighbours. I have since adopted the sweetest kitten, something I’ve always been desperate to do, and my partner and I have never been happier. He’s also a surfer. He’s an engineer with the merchant navy and gets months off at a time (balanced by the months he’s at sea at a time). In Glasgow during his time off, he was miserable. All our friends were at work and he lived hours from the sea. Here, he can hop on his bike and freewheel to the beach in five minutes flat. We’ve overhauled our lifestyle and while it was scary for about a minute, it’s been the best thing we’ve ever done.
And as for our friends, I recently had to ask them to give us a weekend off. Our pals and families have been visiting constantly, so they can also enjoy the seaside and fresh country air. I feel surrounded by love, both due to people actually making an effort to see us now and spending quality time with us, and because of the community we’ve moved to, which couldn’t be more warm and welcoming.
Sorry for the long comment- your blog really resonated with me! I am a total advocate now for people moving, or making a change, just because. Fancy a career change but afraid of starting over? Just do it. Want to go back to uni, afraid of the debts? Worry later. Want to move to Shanghai with just a suitcase? You go. You never know what changes are going to do for your life until you make them.
Hi Jemma,
What a lovely story – well done on taking the plunge and just going for it!! I’m a firm believer that if things aren’t working or you’re not happy, then make a change…even if like you say, it takes you out of your comfort zone. Life is about pushing yourself!
And I didn’t even think about people visiting – you’re right – everyone want to come down when you live by the sea.
We moved from Sheffield to Cornwall, so my boy would totally relate to yours on the ‘landlocked’ thing. He grew up by the sea and both of his Grandfathers were in the Navy, so he has the ocean in his blood.
Thanks for sharing such a positive story with us – hooray for being brave!
Fern x
What a lovely post Fern! And I enjoyed reading all the comments and it’s good to know that I’m not the only one struggling to make new friends. After moving to a new place few years ago, me and my husband have met new people but they are more people-we-know sort of thing than true friends. I can say Daniel is my best friend but I’m really surprised he still puts up with all my girly stuff but then sometimes he bores me for hours about cars and other things I haven’t got a clue about! As an adult I’ve noticed I’m slightly reserved and shy when it comes to meeting new people because it has happened in a past that after putting all the effort and time into building a friendship it didn’t work and that feels like a small heartbreak (or maybe it was just me being too desperate?)
I also admit (confession time now!) that (even though I don’t comment very often) reading RMS makes me feel like there are ‘some’ friends ‘somewhere’ because of the all fanstastic posts and comments and it shows what a beautiful bunch of people RMS team and readers are! 🙂
But this post has inspired me not to give up yet so I’m off to look up all the activities in my local area…! 🙂
Me too Justine! Great post RMS 🙂 xx
Hi Justine,
Thank you for commenting! It’s lovely to hear that RMS makes you feel that way – it’s a community of intelligent, caring people who also happen to love beautiful fashion and interiors!! If all of the comments are anything to go by 😉
I think previous friendship experiences can have a huge impact on your confidence in making new friends. I met Matt when I was still at uni and we were v seriously pretty early on – lots of my friends just couldn’t understand this and I felt like we grew apart because they didn’t get that I’d met the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. There were lots of bitchy comments and nasty behaviour and it was really sad for me because some of these people were people I thought were friends for life! This definitely made me wonder if I was the one with the problem, so I can completely understand where you’re coming from.
Your Daniel sounds lovely, as do you, so I’m sure you’ll have no problems making friends if you start doing different activities. Good luck!
Fern x
I totally resonate with this! moved to a new area of London two years ago and don’t have any friends in the local area – it can feel pretty lonely at times. The hours that I work also don’t allow me to join local evening clubs either. Somehow I do feel with the RMS community that I do have a bunch of friends right there at the touch of a keyboard. 🙂
Aww bless you Emma, jobs with antisocial hours are tough. It’s funny how somewhere so full with people can be so isolating too. I really hope some of the comments inspire you with ways to meet people – exercise classes run all day 🙂
It’s a lovely community and we’re so happy that readers feel that way – I think it’s crucial to have people who are likeminded, intelligent and not afraid to voice different opinions to discuss things with. Hopefully that’s what RMS is becoming.
Fern x
Love, love, love this post! Recently moved to Cheltenham from Lancaster and it has been such a big change – met lots of lovely people through my husband’s work, but I have been commuting to Oxford every day so want to make some of my own local friends. Defo a lot harder meeting people as an adult but this has inspired me to take a look at doing some classes etc. Thanks for a super post x
Hi Helena!!
Thank you, I’m pleased you enjoyed the post. Cheltenham is lovely though so I’m sure you’ll feel settled soon.
It must be tough commuting, so don’t put pressure on yourself to do things during the week. There’s plenty of time at the weekends to meet people and spend time with your husband. And hopefully some of those people you’ve met through him will become YOUR friends in their own right.
Good luck with everything.
Fern x
This is one of life’s constant challenges for me, Fern! I’m half-British but spent my childhood (until 18) in Brussels with school friends from all around the world. When I went to uni in the UK, my parents moved abroad and ‘Brussels’ isn’t really home anymore. Added to that, as none of my friends there were FROM Brussels, they’ve all moved away too. It means that I’ve never had a true ‘base’ where everyone I love will be. I’ve missed it; although it is pretty awesome being able to travel the world and crash with friends who happen to live where you’re going!
My parents currently live in Ethiopia (until they retire next year) and I miss them every day. However, I’ve lived away from them since I was 18 so we deal with it – we’re very close and Apple’s invention of FaceTime (and skype before that) has made life a million times easier! You do have to put more effort into just chatting and sharing what’s happening in your life when you don’t live close to people. But it does mean that, when you do get to see/spend time with each other, it’s all the more special.
I did have a proper wobbly moment earlier on in the year because it looked like my only sibling (my bro) and his wife were going to move to Australia. Most of my Mum’s extended family live there and I knew that, if the bro were to go, then that’s where my parents would have retired to. I’d have really, really struggled to be all on my lonesome in Europe so had started dropping strong hints to my very English fiance about a possible move downunder! In the end, the Australia move fell through for and instead my bro and his wife are moving to London instead, which I’m sooo THRILLED about. Maybe you can entice your sisters to Cornwall, Fern! 😉
Hi Kate – when I wrote this post I actually thought ‘stop moaning – think of all of those people whose family live all over the world.’
It must be so hard having them in different countries – let alone continents!!
I’m so pleased your Brother is moving to London, do you think that will mean your parents come to the UK too?
We’re hoping once the baby comes our families will think about it – our parents are close to retirement age and it would be great if they moved a bit closer…but I suppose three/four hours in a car is nothing compared to the other side of the world.
Fern x
Hi Fern, yes, I think my parents will probably do 6 months in the UK and 6 months somewhere hot – my Mum is from a tiny group of islands in the South Pacific and, despite living most of the past 30 years in cold Europe, she still hasn’t acclimatised! But as long as they come back and see us regularly, I don’t mind. 😉 I’m hoping by then that either my brother or I will have some babies to entice them to stay with us too, hah.
That’ll be lovely if your parents move closer – that’s the great thing about retirement…they are a bit more free!
Ahhh Congratulations and you look so lovely Fern! I totally know how hard it can be… we struggled through a year in Birmingham feeling really lonely. There was nothing wrong with the place but working really antisocial hours, having a demanding boss who knew I had no friends, and happening to join a really bad gym all meant we couldn’t hack it and packed up and moved back to Sheffield. We tried so many things but it just wasn’t the right place and I think we knew that deep down. We did move to a new area though and had to basically start a fresh. Our local church was great – instantly we met 150 people all comitted to building community, then a nice gym and then our baby came along. Children really are amazing – they have a knack of seeking out likeminded friends and so you have no choice but to make friends with their mummies and when the children get on so well its normally a sign that you are similar people as parents too… so many of my really close ‘real friends’ are people I’ve met through my children.
Hi Amanda,
Ahhh thank you and thank you for your comment! I think it’s equally as brave to admit that somewhere/something isn’t working for you and make a change.
I lived in Sheffield for about 6 years, (and Lauren C is from there) so we love it there! The people were genuinely some of the nicest I’ve ever come across. It feels so small for a city – everyone says it’s more like a community of villages and I can completely see why.
Whereabouts did you move back to?
Fern x
Ahh it is lovely here and was so hard to move to somewhere new when you’re used to seeing 50 people you know whenever you pop out to the supermarket. But having been to Cornwall a few times its certainly somewhere that would be top of our list if we had to go anywhere else. Its just got such a gorgeous vibe about it, hasnt it?
I grew up in Ecclesall, moved to Hunters Bar to be a student after a couple of years away then when we came back last time we’ve settled to bring up family in Totley – I love the Eccy Rd area so much and miss loving right on it but we’re on the edge of the woods and the peaks and I’ve made some of the most amazing friends since moving here. My husbands family are all in either London or Africa too so its really handy to have my mum down the road to babysit. No beach anywhere to be seen though!
Awww this has made me miss Sheffield – it’s just the best city…
The combination of little roads filled with nice shops and cafes and the peak district on your doorstep is the best!!
I used to love walking along Eccy Road to Sharrowvale and just pottering round.
Fern x
Such a lovely post, thanks for sharing! I just love the whole wanting to live by the beach! I just really want to see some pictures, it sounds amazing!
I’m living 1 1/2hours away from my family and miss them loads. I moved here for work and met some great people because of it. I just really wish I could move this town a little closer to home!
I know exactly what you mean Anya! It would be amazing if you could transplant one place to be right next to another…or if the clever people could just hurry up and invent teleporting that would be useful…
We are very lucky to live where we do – I still pinch myself everyday and we truly try to make the most of it.
Fern x
I moved towns 9 years ago and my new job wasn’t local to the area. I very quickly fell pregnant but having decided that I didn’t like the people in my new area, I made no effort to socialise and visited my old area as much as possible. 5 years on I met a great group of mums, who, it turned out would have been at all the toddler and post natal groups had I gone! Motto – throw yourself in and whilst a lot of people wont be your cup of tea there are a lot who will… I just wish I’d been a little less stubborn!
This is a great point Jules – you have to accept that you’re not going to get on well immediately with everyone you meet!!
I’m glad things worked out for you in the end though.
Fern x
Many congrats on the pregnancy and thanks for a great article Fern! It was lovely to read about your experience and I found it very recognizable. My husband’s in the Navy and in the past 9 years I’ve moved from the Netherlands to Italy to live with him, then we moved to the UK together, then to the US and then back again to the UK, where we hope to be able to stay now. It’s not been easy to start over each and every time and to have to make friends all over again. Especially when we moved to England the first time it was difficult because we moved to a small village. I had always lived in big cities before and felt quite isolated for some time; I worked from home and it took me well over a year to make my first local friends. In the end it was through the NCT whilst expecting our first baby that I made some friends (so yes, babies do help with making friends, in my experience!). Coming back to the UK after three years in the States I expected it would take me a long time to make friends again (I have kept one of my NCT friends here in the area but the others have moved away) but this time I got extremely lucky and met a great bunch of mums through the local school, where our eldest started reception year a week or two after we arrived. I do think that is far from typical though and I just happened to get very lucky that there were so many women open to meeting someone new – now, a year one, I’ve got a great group of friends including someone I will happily call my best friend.
Hi Linda,
It’s always good to hear positive stories – so thank you 🙂
And it sounds like you’re very much adapted to making friends wherever you go now. Hopefully you’ll be where you are now for a little while!
Fern x
This is a great post. We moved to London 3 years ago, my boyfriend (now husband) got a new job and I was lucky enough to be able to move with my existing company – the only problem with that was I was working from home and very little opportunity to meet new people. I found it a struggle, but have a few friends in London (thanks to twitter / wedding planning) – and have even got back in touch with some old school friends who also live in the city which is great.
Like so many others on here, I’ve forced myself to step outside of my comfort zone – going out for dinner on my own, walking, exploring. My husband travels a lot for work too, so when he’s away instead of hiding myself away in the flat I want to get out and make the most of what London has to offer. It can be an incredibly lonely place but it is also the best city in the world!
I honestly think getting out and about is the best thing – even if you go somewhere on your own, at least you’re seeing people and things and it always cheers me up!
Working from home can be extremely isolating Rach, but I’m glad you’ve made contact with old friends – I bet you’ve had lots of laughs reminiscing!
Fern x
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I think now that people don’t have a ‘job for life’ this is becoming much more of a thing and it is an odd situation because there aren’t any conventions for making friends as an adult. Having moved quite a few times, one thing I would say is do be honest with people about wanting to make friends, even if you think it sounds lame. When I lived in Scotland, I was really lonely and about 6 months in someone I worked with said “we thought when you moved here you wouldn’t have known anyone and wondered if you were OK” and I just wished they’d said something at the time. I didn’t want to seem pushy, but actually when I’ve said “I don’t know many people here, would you like to go for a coffee or something” people tend to be lovely. Volunteering on events or joining classes or going to training/ networking things helped. The other thing is organising something and roping people in to help, then you can create something that will work for like-minded people, rather than trying to find a group where you fit in. There are always other people in the same situation too so don’t feel like you’re the only one. Good luck to anyone moving. Helena, I don’t know if you’ll see this as you posted a while ago but I’m in Cheltenham too so give me a shout.
Hi Fern, first time I’ve used one of these bloggy things. It’s Nigel.! Happy new year to M & D & yourself & ?. I’m usually found downstairs outside with Bonnie whilst Linda thinks of things for me to do to keep me out of trouble. Didn’t know how much to say on this thing just wondered how things are going, may wish to respond to my e-mail.
Following the conversation above it looks like I’m moving down there end of this year or early next so planning alsorts of stuff. Sell house.! Explain to mother why.! But mostly worried about missing my best friend and how the distance will effect our lunatic bantor, well I guess boys will always be boys.. I’m old enough to know the considerations I have to make but you are correct it should be, if you have the option, for it to be a ‘lifestyle’ thing, Anyway, hope you’re all well and see you soon. N & L. X.